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« Reply #30 on: Feb 5th, 2013, 3:29pm »

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So like many others here I am sure, I thank Carl for all his struggles in creating a free version 5 of LB to produce Linux compatible software, and look forward to testing such when available.


Unless something has changed LB 5 will not be free......

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« Reply #31 on: Feb 6th, 2013, 01:17am »

Though I for one would be happy to buy LB5, but what does the earlier post below mean exactly?

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In order to enourage sales that might be lost by people who delay their purchase of Liberty BASIC v4.04 because they would rather wait for LB5, I'm announcing that anyone who now purchases LB v4.04 between now and it's release will get their upgrade to LB5 free of charge.

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« Reply #32 on: Feb 6th, 2013, 02:50am »

Hello Gordon,

it was a long time i've not written in this forum, lol.

it seem to mean :
"If you bought LB v4.04 after 12 11 2011 at 5:20 pm a free copy of LB 5 will be offered to you when released."

Thank's Carl grin

this is what i understand...
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Have a look to LBasicFr (LB for French Users).
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« Reply #33 on: Feb 6th, 2013, 03:08am »

Fair enough.

But perhaps we should make it clear if like me being an ' old LBer ' I just uploaded and installed ver 4.04 having already had ver 4.03 ( and many previous vers ) installed, then I will need to pay for ver 5.

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xx Re: Free upgrade to LB5
« Reply #34 on: Feb 6th, 2013, 05:33am »

on Feb 6th, 2013, 03:08am, GordonSweet wrote:
Fair enough.

But perhaps we should make it clear if like me being an ' old LBer ' I just uploaded and installed ver 4.04 having already had ver 4.03 ( and many previous vers ) installed, then I will need to pay for ver 5.

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I believe you mean that you downloaded 4.04 (not uploaded.)

Minor updates have always been free. Major updates require an upgrade fee. If you already own LB 4.x, you'll need to purchase an upgrade to LB 5.

The announcement is for NEW purchases of Liberty BASIC.

"...anyone who now purchases LB 4.04"

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« Reply #35 on: Jun 20th, 2013, 02:46am »

I think I can understand the delays in producing LB5, which are perhaps due to considerable problems in creating any software both for a Linux system but which I believe it is intended should be compatible with LB v4.04. But is it really necessary for it to be compatible with the latter? You cannot easily run any Widows software, even using such as Wine on a Linux, so why try to make it compatible? Once you attempt to write any BASIC software for a Linux, should we not be prepared where necessary to learn new code needed just for the Linux?

Over the last year or so I have experimented with a variety of versions of Linux, but not of course the copyright version in more general use for Mac PCs. In fact I doubt the majority of Mac users such as I have met, would risk attempting to install any version of Linux unless it was specifically stated to suitable for a Mac.

I have often been very impressed by much of the free software available for various Linux, which in some cases appears to be superior to much of Windows software. But the problems I often find occur when attempting to install new software to that supplied with a Linux. This often occurs when unlike much of Widows, with Linux software it is not sufficient to just install just one file, but other support files need installing. In fact it often seems necessary to also type in very complex instructions. This is the reason why I gave up attempting to install Wine after having corrupting Ubuntu in a separate partition to Windows.

Might I suggest instead of attempting to make LB5 compatible with existing LB code, more work should be diverted to ensuring LB5 can easily be installed on at least the more popular versions of Linux like perhaps Puppy, and Mint, even perhaps for the Mac.

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« Reply #36 on: Jun 23rd, 2013, 5:29pm »

on Sep 23rd, 2012, 09:57am, GordonSweet wrote:
Thanks Stefan.

I hope we do not come across what seems to be a common problem when trying to instal new software under Linux. I often find I am asked to also instal extra files, and even type in strange code in what is I believe the console.

Likese will LB5 run on all versions of Linus or only certain versions.


I think the issue is that you are treating software on Linux like it is treated on Windows.
As Stefan said, software requires other software to run. For example, when you write a program in LB you sometimes need to include an extra .dll file. In Linux, instead of DLL files, you may need extra packages which are downloaded for you during the install.
Many people find it easier to use the terminal to install software (since you can just type a command instead of clicking through a GUI), but you don't necessarily need to. Many distributions of Linux include a GUI front end to their package manager (for example, in Ubuntu it's called Synaptic Package Manager but they also include a nicer one called the Software Center to make it easier for new users).

If LB5 is distributed as a standalone program (like Run BASIC) then you can pretty much just double click the file and be good.
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« Reply #37 on: Apr 8th, 2014, 07:49am »

Correct me if I am wrong, but even with my limited experience with trying various versions of Linux, I cannot help wonder if the delays in producing LB5 capable of compiling programs which I believe is meant for every one the very many versions of Linux is actually possible. I would in fact be interested in knowing if ANYONE has in fact ever managed to create any such software do so to date.

Even the very sophisticated copyright version of Linux for the very popular Mac PC appears to always need special versions of all software that specifically designed just for the Mac .This surely the main problem with the otherwise many excellent free versions of Linux is that all software must usually be tailored for each version.

For the past few months I have been creating simple versions of some of my old QB code to work on a free version of a Basic under Windows 7, but I best not mention the name of this basic. I then resort to compiling the code for some Linux using facilities available from a site online. This is because I do not have the patience,and probably the knowledge to try to install the particular Basic in to a suitable Linux.

However the Linux code is ONLY intended work up to a point on Debian based Linux such as Ubuntu, Mint and Knoppix. Even so I still come across anomalies that are not supposed to happen because I am only testing my efforts with Mint.
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« Reply #38 on: Apr 8th, 2014, 4:09pm »

Mac OS and Linux are both UNIX derivatives.

Mac OS is a totally different beast compared to Linux, even so they share some console commands.

Both are build on a different kernel.

Linux distributions are build on different kernel versions too, so one needs to pay attention to the supported kernel versions of a software distribution.

Linux applications usually need a minimum kernel version to run flawlessly.

The main hurdle for LB5 is the backwards compatibility with LB4, not the support for multiple platforms.
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« Reply #39 on: Apr 12th, 2015, 12:49am »

I have Liberty basic v4.04.. ... so does that mean I get the upgrade to LB5 even if I bought it before December 11 2011? Maybe its a silly question..
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« Reply #40 on: Apr 12th, 2015, 12:45pm »

Free upgrade after that date, until version 5 is released.
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« Reply #41 on: Sep 27th, 2015, 2:31pm »

I have got 4.04pro.
do I need to remove all , to get up dated.

my registration code will work ?
i downloaded 4.5 but my code did not work
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« Reply #42 on: Sep 27th, 2015, 6:33pm »

There is no Pro version of LB v4.5 yet. Until there is, the code you have, for LB Pro, will not work in 4.5. Unfortunately, if the only code you have is for 4.5, you won't be able to use it until then.
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